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Rick Perry and his War on Women goon squad already have disgusted even the women of their own party with their creepy and intrusive sonogram law, generally recognized as the most oppressive anti-choice statute currently being enforced anywhere in the country. They backed up that roaring victory with the defunding of family planning services for hundreds of thousands of low-income women, merely because their lifesaving cancer screenings and desperately needed birth control pills were provided by The Great Satan, AKA Planned Parenthood.

And now they look to be coming after what tattered shreds of dignity and medical privacy that women in Texas have left.

Health facilities in Texas, including those that provide abortion care, are regulated and licensed by the Department of State Health Services. They make and enforce the rules, and if a facility wants to keep its license, it follows them.

This week licensed abortion facilities and other “interested parties” across Texas received notice from DSHS that the rules are about to change—specifically those controlling the information that clinics must report to the state about women who have abortions. A PDF of the letter is posted at the link above, but here's the text.

March 26, 2012

TO:   All Interested Parties

FROM:   Renee Clack, Health Care Quality Section Director, Division for Regulatory Services
SUBJECT:  25 TAC, Chapter 139: Abortion Facility Reporting and Licensing Rules

The Department of State Health Services will hold a stakeholder meeting on Thursday, April 5, 2012, from 1:00 pm – 5:00 pm to discuss updated reporting requirements for all abortions performed in an abortion facility. Reporting requirements for physicians relating to abortion complications have also been updated to include a complication reporting form submission requirement.

The meeting will be held at the following location:
J.J. Pickle Research Campus
Lil’ Texas Auditorium
10100 Burnet Road, Austin, TX 78758

Please contact Amy Harper, Regulatory Licensing Unit Manager at (512) 834-6730 if you have any questions regarding the upcoming meeting.

It's just an update, right?  And aren't updates a good thing?

In this case, no. No, no, and hell no. And here's why.

The letter clearly states that the subject of the meeting is discussion of requirements that already have been updated—including an unprecedented “complication reporting form submission requirement.” However, queries to DSHS about these new requirements have been met with vagueness and outright evasion: why, people are just going to get together and offer their input, nothing has been decided, and even DSHS itself has no idea what any new requirements might really look like.

After years spent deciphering StateSpeak into some intelligible form of human communication, I can detect the odor of mendacity when smoke is blown in my face. Further, I suspect that the truth the state is hiding is that it now means to implement by regulation what it has failed for the past several years to accomplish through legislation—the complete destruction of privacy for women who need abortion care, and for the dwindling ranks of physicians who still dare to provide it for them.

Abortion statistics as they have been reported in Texas for more than 20 years now contain only minimal information. They are submitted under a code number for each facility, and include no identifiable information even about physicians, let alone about patients--in fact, the rules expressly forbid it.

But in the last several legislative sessions, anti-choice operatives in both houses have pushed hard for reporting that would demand excruciatingly detailed and highly personal information about both doctors and the women who are their patients—both before and after the abortion. Those bills have failed to become law for various reasons having nothing to do with their content.

Several members of both the Texas House and Senate have put their names to these bills over the years, but their source and intent is always the same. In the most recent session, Rep. Bill Zedler volunteered to carry the water for HB 1602, which declared the intention of “protecting the life and health of a pregnant woman seeking an elective abortion and, to the extent constitutionally permissible, the life of the woman's unborn child.”

Since the anti-choice brigades have made so many attempts to impose this mandate on Texas women and doctors----and since its requirements dovetail so perfectly with the language of the DSHS letter--I see no reason to doubt that this bill and its virtually identical predecessors will form the template for the state's reporting “updates.”

Here is a small sample of the kinds of information they'd like to harvest.

(A) the woman's:
                               (i)  age;
                               (ii)  race or ethnicity;
                               (iii)  marital status; and
                               (iv)  municipality, county, state, and nation of residence;
(B)  the woman's highest level of education,
:::
(C)  the age of the father of the unborn child at the time of the abortion;
(D)  the method or methods of contraception used at the time the unborn child was conceived,
:::
(E)  a space for the woman to indicate the specific reason the abortion is to be performed
:::
(F)  the number of the woman's previous live births;
(G)  the number of induced abortions the woman has previously undergone;
(H)  the number of miscarriages the woman has previously experienced;
(I)  the source of the woman's referral to the physician for the abortion
:::
(I)  the method of pregnancy verification
:::
(J)  the total fee collected from the patient by the physician for performing the abortion, selected from the following list:
(i)  private insurance;
(ii)  a public health plan;
(iii)  personal payment by cash; or
(iv)  personal payment by check or credit card;
:::
G)  the number of fetuses aborted;
(H)  the number of weeks of gestation at which the abortion was performed, based on the best medical judgment of the attending physician performing the procedure, and the weight of the fetus or fetuses, if determinable
:::
(L)  the type of anesthetic, if any, used on the woman during the abortion;
(M)  the type of anesthetic, if any, used on the unborn child or children during the abortion;
(N)  the method used to dispose of fetal tissue and remains
A woman couldn't be blamed for saying “to hell with this” and refusing to fill out the reporting form, but whoever wrote the bill Zedler claimed to author had that one covered.
(d)  A woman is required to complete the information required by Subsection (b)(1) unless the abortion is necessary to:
(1)  prevent the woman's death or to avoid harm to the woman
So grab a pen, little missy, and use black ink, because this is an official state reporting form that goes on your permanent record, you know? And we'll make sure you get a copy to take home for your memory book.
A physician or the physician's agent shall provide to each woman required to complete a form under this section a copy of the completed form before the woman leaves the facility where the abortion was performed.
You can paste it in right next to a copy of the sonogram you had to make a 198 mile round trip to get at least 24 hours before you were even allowed to have an abortion at all.

And once you get back home, please follow your aftercare instructions to the letter, because you wouldn't want to have a complication. No, you sure wouldn't want to do that, because then your personal disclosures to the state would have to start all over again. That's what those complication reporting forms are for.

(b)  The form must include the following information to be completed by the physician providing the treatment:
(1)  the date of the abortion that caused or may have caused the complication;
(2)  the type of abortion that caused or may have caused the complication
:::
(7)  a description of the complication or complications,
:::
(8)  the number of weeks of gestation at which the abortion was performed, based on the best medical judgment of the attending physician at the time of the treatment for the complication;
(9)  the number of the woman's previous live births;
(10)  the number of previous induced abortions the woman has undergone;
(11)  the number of miscarriages the woman has previously experienced;
12)  whether the treatment for the complication was paid for by:
(A)  private insurance;
(B)  a public health plan;
(C)  personal payment by cash; or
(D)  personal payment by check or credit card;
(13)  the total fee collected by the physician for treatment of the complication;
And there's plenty more where that came from. Not to worry, though. The state only wants to ensure your welfare. And they'll never tell anyone: Shhh!
(b)  A department employee may disclose information described by Subsection (a):
(1)  for statistical purposes, but only if a person or facility is not identified;
(2)  to a medical professional, a state agency, or a county or district court for purposes of enforcing this chapter
:::
(3)  to a state licensing board for purposes of enforcing state licensing laws.
See there? Nothing to worry about. And that's such a relief, because there's no way the doctor's not going to turn in that report on you in the first place. Aside from the hefty fines imposed for failure to submit a report, most doctors like to avoid criminal prosecution if they can.
Sec. 171.027.  OFFENSE; CRIMINAL PENALTY.  (a)  A physician commits an offense if the physician:
(1)  fails to submit a report required by this subchapter;
(2)  intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly submits false information in a report required by this subchapter
Not only clinic directors and physicians will be showing up for the April 5 meeting in Austin. Other “interested parties” will include the usual War on Women shock troops found wherever women in Texas have a right left to lose – and I expect them to outnumber the defenders by at least 10 to 1, merely because they always do.

This gathering is billed as a “stakeholder's meeting,” and that's a good name for it, because the stakes are high.

Do I know that back-door implementation of a scary official intrusion into the details of a woman's private life is on the agenda? No, I don't, because the state is refusing to say. But they aren't denying it, either.

What I do know is that all these years on the front lines of the War on Women in Texas has taught me to keep my nose to the wind. And I can smell it.

Originally posted to moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 07:30 PM PDT.

Also republished by TexKos-Messing with Texas with Nothing but Love for Texans, Sluts, Pro Choice, and Abortion.

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  •  Republished to TexKos (24+ / 0-)

    Where we always imagine that we've seen the worst... And we're always mistaken.  Thanks for a disturbing diary on a subject of interest to many of our 25 million Lone Star State citizens.  

    Some drink deeply from the river of knowledge. Others only gargle. -- Woody Allen

    by cassandracarolina on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 07:42:45 PM PDT

    •  Thanks, but I went to TK with it first (15+ / 0-)

      This is a dangerous precedent, cassandra. It's bad enough fighting them in the Lege, but now they're sneaking in the back door like burglars.

      A friend suggested that since we're all stakeholders, we should be entitled to put one through their heart -- but we'd have to find it first.

      "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

      by moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 07:47:00 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  illegal: HIPAA violation, and also.... (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Ahianne, skohayes, Dirk McQuigley

        ... arguably exposes women to retaliation from rapists and stalkers who made them pregnant in the first place, since in small towns it will be possible to ascertain identity from information provided.  

        This will get shot down quickly, all it will take is a team of smart lawyers.

        "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:05:11 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I so hope so (4+ / 0-)
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          Ahianne, G2geek, adrianrf, Womantrust

          but that's what everyone said about the sonogram law. Unfortunately, Texas falls under the purview of the Fifth Circuit, which has never seen an abortion-related restriction that it didn't love to pieces.

          "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

          by moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:11:39 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  a sonogram law just got shot down in... (0+ / 0-)

            .... Oklahoma, by the state supreme court.  And while state rulings don't carry federal precedent, they do begin to influence judges in other jurisdictions.  Unless of course they're anti-abortion religious right kooks, in which case you'll need to look for other methods.  

            One thing that might be worthwhile is an "underground railroad" type of operation, that seeks out clinics in adjacent states and drives women to those clinics in groups.  Get the doctors in Texas in the loop on this one by having them refer women to the underground railroad.  

            Strategically, this sets up for the wingers in Texas to try to pass laws banning that sort of thing, but as soon as it involves crossing state lines, it's instantly a federal case.  From the 5th Ckt it goes to the USSC, which so far has been unwilling to overturn Roe.   Meanwhile we get Obama re-elected and look forward to his next pick for USSC, and attempt to use time to our advantage.

            BTW, please try to talk some sense into Agent99, who is flagrantly breaking site rules by advocating violence against legislators over this.  His/her outrage is understandable, but there are ways to express it that don't risk getting insta-banned, and there are much more effective means of protest than by swinging baseball bats and tire irons at legislators.

            "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

            by G2geek on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:05:04 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Unholy alliance between money and Evangelicals (6+ / 0-)

      in TX.

      I lived in Dallas and saw it all via my daughter's school. The Republican monied would dress in their finest as they went to the Planned Parenthood luncheon with Kay Bailey Hutchinson and Laura Bush. The Evangelicals would sneer at the morality of the monied as they joined their hands with an unholy alliance.

      Someone once told me they vote for Republicans over money . . . "When it comes to social issues, my family has the money to jump a plane to Sweden for an abortion. It's the taxes."

      I'm guessing the Planned Parenthood luncheon isn't the Dallas Republican "Ladies" chic designation anymore since the Komen bs and the War on Women. And I'm guessing that the monied TX Republican women won't say a word. They will vote the tax, as they always have, and fly to Sweden.

  •  assholes (7+ / 4-)

    I want to take a baseball bat to the knees of every anti choice dickhead who sponsored this.

    I don't mean to be so forceful, no, wait yes I do. This pisses me off even more than the Republican Rape bill in Virginia.

    As of right now, I loathe all anti-choice politicians with an intensity greater than the radiation output of a thousand suns. 3.13.12

    by GenuineRisk on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 07:48:06 PM PDT

    •  whoa there... (1+ / 1-)
      Recommended by:
      EclecticCrafter
      Hidden by:
      splashy

      .... what you just said could get you banned from here under the hard-core rule against advocating violence.

      There are clever ways to express the desire for evil people to die miserable deaths, without having to cross that line.

      Sorry but I have to HR this, and all it's going to take is one more HR to make it invisible except to TUs.  So let's have one more HR on the comment above to make it invisible, and that should suffice.  

      After which, someone please put two HRs on this comment so it also disappears from view.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:03:21 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Major uprate to offset HR. Women are under assault (0+ / 0-)

        and a baseball bat to the knees is an extremely restrained response to this type of degrading, infantilizing legislation directed at women's private medical decisions.

        My instant and instinctual response to this legislative forcible invasion of  every woman's right to privacy was a tire iron to the nuts.

        That may make you wince in precisely the same way women are enduring the excruciating pain of being forced to undergo forcible insertion of probes into their vaginas.

        No legislator is proposing bills requiring you to forcibly undergo a tire iron to the nuts. But they are definitely waging an extreme physical war on women.

        Please reconsider changing your HR into a rec. Thank you.

        "Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope." ~Robert F. Kennedy

        by Agent99 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:47:04 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  My Grandmother died a painful death in childbirth. (0+ / 0-)

          Due to lack of adequate medical alternatives, she and the fetus died. My mother was the last child born alive. There is no way in hell any woman in America is going to permit right wing male legislators to force their goddamned way into our private medical decisions.

          I resent your assertion that a baseball bat to the knees is advocating violence, if you refuse to acknowledge and weigh the violence and real maternal deaths being legislatively forced upon women.

          Our grandmothers fought and died for our rights, and I'll continue that fight, even if it takes a tire iron to the nuts of any man who tries to challenge our rights.

          "Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope." ~Robert F. Kennedy

          by Agent99 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 12:27:32 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  no one is saying that the lege aren't (0+ / 0-)

            waging war on women and women's rights.

            Unfortunately that doesn't equate to a valid reason to advocate violence.  You take whatever actions you are willing to pay the consequences for, however, this site does not condone advocating violence against those who hold positions we loathe.

        •  how'bout posting a diary.... (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          EclecticCrafter

          ... where you call for using baseball bats and tire irons on state legislators?

          Let us know how the interview with the FBI goes.  That is, let us know, if you don't get banned for posting the diary in the first place.

          Look, of course it's a bloody outrage that all this evil shit is being proposed and passed.  Of course it's enough to blast right past someone's pacifism threshold.  But the site rules are really clear about advocating violence, and the comments in question are not even arguable.

          In a practical sense, you shoot yourself in the foot by going there.  Advocating for assault & battery on elected officials distracts from the kind of useful organizing and activism that really gets stuff done.

          But if you'd be willing to take a felony sentence for attempted murder of an elected official, then do us a real favor and risk misdemeanor trespass doing a nonviolent Occupy sit-in of these bastards' offices.  

          "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

          by G2geek on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 12:54:54 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Advocating violence sets the stage for (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          EclecticCrafter, moiv

          these anti- family woman haters to play the martyr role.  Not one they deserve or we should give them.

        •  We do not condone violence here. (0+ / 0-)

          regardless of your instinctive response.  

          This is why the equivalences that the media draws between the left and the right aren't as "false" as we'd like them to be.

      •  I HR'd it, we can't have violent speech (1+ / 0-)
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        EclecticCrafter

        Big no-no.

        Please sign the White House petition to Flush Rush from AFN (Armed Forces Network).

        by splashy on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:02:58 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  what the hell? (0+ / 0-)

        I'm not 'advocating violence', but for a while there, I was just so angry I fantasized about being violent.  What the Republicans are doing is so outrageously out there, it's really difficult to internalize my disgust. To top it all off, now the Right is spinning this as a 'false' issue?  

        As of right now, I loathe all anti-choice politicians with an intensity greater than the radiation output of a thousand suns. 3.13.12

        by GenuineRisk on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 10:21:00 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  HR for violent speech (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      G2geek, EclecticCrafter

      Sorry, had to do it.

      Please sign the White House petition to Flush Rush from AFN (Armed Forces Network).

      by splashy on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:01:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  cool, we've now got enough Hides on the... (0+ / 0-)

        ... original comment to take it out of public view, and one on my comment (we need one more on my comment, anyone?) to hide the rest of the thread.  

        Seems to me this is preferable to blowing the whistle to Admin which would only have gotten the original commenter banned but not hidden the thread in question.

        "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 06:09:22 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Clutch the pearls harder (0+ / 0-)

          Let's definitely not talk about the topic, but congradulate each other for caring so deeply about the hurt fee fees of psychotic politicians.

          hooray!

          •  know what happens if you... (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            EclecticCrafter

            .... post a diary here with the comments that we hid?

            You get insta-banned for advocating violence.

            Know what happens if you call up a Congressperson's office and make those comments in person?

            You get to spend the rest of your day answering questions from three people in suits who don't take BS for an answer.  

            There is a near-infinite range of clever nonviolent protest tactics that work.  

            If you don't like that, go back and watch the videos of Congressmember Giffords.  

            "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

            by G2geek on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 09:38:05 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  wow, that's a pretty strong ad hom. (0+ / 0-)

            Happy to talk about the topic, how to fight the regulations and laws.  Not willing to provide fodder for the "both the right and left advocate violence" equivalencies that come up when Rep. Giffords, or Dr. Tillman get shot.

        •  Unfortunately, there have been more uprates to (0+ / 0-)

          counter.

        •  are you seriously (0+ / 0-)

          trying to silence me?

          As of right now, I loathe all anti-choice politicians with an intensity greater than the radiation output of a thousand suns. 3.13.12

          by GenuineRisk on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 10:24:21 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Boy I hope the Lone Star State women get all (15+ / 0-)

    over this sheeite. BASTARDS.

    Sig seen on Redstate: ABO Anybody But Obama. Sorry, I'm stealing that.... Another Barack Opportunity. Vote Obama/Biden 2012!

    by mrsgoo on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 07:48:55 PM PDT

  •  OH, it stinks , alright. (5+ / 0-)

    I'd rather have a buntle afrota-me than a frottle a bunta-me.

    by David54 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 08:01:59 PM PDT

  •  I'd like to ask the politicians some questions. (6+ / 0-)

    1. Have you ever paid for an abortion?
    2. Have you ever had an abortion?
    3. Has your wife, girlfriend, daughter, sister, or mother ever had an abortion?

    I guarantee you there would be alot of "Yes" answers coming from even the most anti-abortion of the lot.

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    by annrose on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 08:45:27 PM PDT

    •  Of course some of them (12+ / 0-)

      have paid for an abortion, even if they don't know it, because their wives have brought their teenaged daughters.

      I think I needed IV sedation more than the patient did, the first time I heard a Republican office holder's wife say something like, "Well ... my husband thinks we came into town to go shopping for her prom dress, because if he knew, this would just kill her daddy."

      While these men are trampling all over other women, their own women protect them from reality. Sweet.

      "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

      by moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 08:58:07 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Well of course (0+ / 0-)

        all of them have paid for an abortion.

        They all pay taxes, and some of their tax dollars (in the past, anyway) have gone to Planned Parenthood.

        Not to pay for abortions, but hey, the tax dollars were going to Planned Parenthood.

        27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

        by TDDVandy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:42:33 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Stinks to high heaven (4+ / 0-)
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    moiv, luckydog, G2geek, EclecticCrafter

    Why not just call the form "Required Information to Slhme Sluts Who Don' Love Babies and Jesus" because that is what it truly is for.

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:25:20 PM PDT

    •  Hey, we haven't seen the forms yet (4+ / 0-)
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      luckydog, G2geek, adrianrf, Womantrust

      and for all we know, they might say exactly that.

      Wow, truth in advertising -- that would be a first for the Texas GOP.

      "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

      by moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:29:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  All I can think of is Molly Ivins idea for the (8+ / 0-)

        state motto:"Mississippi But WIth Better Roads."

        Of course my state rep here in Auburn GA wants to ban miscarriages for any reason after 20 weeks--even in the case where the fetus is dead but hasn't been expelled--because cows pas stillbirths on hsi farm all the time. He's an agriculture major from UGA,and apparently doesn't realize (1) that women are not cows and (2) the decision of how to handle a fetal death in utero is a MEDICAL decision to be made by the woman and her doctor--and making it for her when you are not a doctor is called practicing medicine without a license which is a crime.  I think he's bidding to take up Bobby Franklin's post as Most Colorful (which is Southern for "The St. Joseph's Home for the Terminally Bewildered is Transferring Him to the Secure Care Facility for People so Crazy Mean That the Only People Who Will Have Anything to Do With them Have to Be VERY Well-Paid" just as soon as there's an opening) GA Politician.

        The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

        by irishwitch on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:47:00 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  In that second paragraph in the first sentence (3+ / 0-)
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          moiv, wu ming, Ahianne

          it should read "wants top ban abortions" not "ban miscarriages"--though I am waiting for him to try to bring back Bobby's old legislative proposal where every miscarriage must be investigated as a potential homicide (since he's banned abortion completely) by police.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:53:38 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  I had to LMAO at this (4+ / 0-)
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          Most Colorful (which is Southern for "The St. Joseph's Home for the Terminally Bewildered is Transferring Him to the Secure Care Facility for People so Crazy Mean That the Only People Who Will Have Anything to Do With them Have to Be VERY Well-Paid" just as soon as there's an opening)
          I've been keeping up with Bobby Franklin's escapades for years, and he never disappoints.

          But hey, congratulations on seeing that 20 week ban fail -- even if it was for the wrong reason.

          "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

          by moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:54:36 PM PDT

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        •  Perhaps he can be the president of (4+ / 0-)
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          the Fetal-American Idolatry League (FAIL).

          Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

          by kbman on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:58:28 PM PDT

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          •  He may already be. (2+ / 0-)
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            I am pretty sure the late unlamented (even by fellow Republicans; he was THAT crazy that his amendments  guaranteed a bill would fail) held that office, so there's likely an opening for Terry ENglund.

            The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

            by irishwitch on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 10:07:45 PM PDT

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          •  brilliant acronym, that. (2+ / 0-)
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            And it didn't have to torture the language to make it fit, as so many intentional acronyms do.  

            Instant viral meme.  

            "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

            by G2geek on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:09:06 PM PDT

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        •  Women as livestock (0+ / 0-)

          What's next, parading your wife, GF, or daughter around a county fair hoping to get a Blue Ribbon?

          •  Cows are valuable for their milk. (1+ / 0-)
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            Women get to compete in baking and cooking competitions, their main use to soem men.

            We already have Blue Ribbon comps for looks. They're called beauty pageants,and the ones down here start around age 8 (I know there are others, but these are the local ones ). Two ofmy nieces were in Jr. Miss Buford, and the older sister was in the high school version, Miss. Buford.

            The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

            by irishwitch on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 11:02:59 AM PDT

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  •  And let me guess - they'll ban audio and video (6+ / 0-)

    recording devices at this meeting "out of respect for the privacy and confidentiality of those attending".

    Teabaggers can yell "Read the bills" all they want; at least we actually write them.

    by here4tehbeer on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 09:57:36 PM PDT

    •  I am actually surprised that they don't (3+ / 0-)
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      require those ultrasound counseling sessions to be videotaped to ensure the doctor does what he's told.  I am still trying to figure out how they plan to enforce that law.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 10:10:01 PM PDT

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      •  So far we have no solid guidelines (5+ / 0-)

        from DSHS, which is still telling us that the law is so confusing that they're not sure they understand it completely yet themselves. Needless to say, we are not feeling reassured.

        As of now, the woman must sign a state-issued "Sonogram and Abortion Election" form before the sonogram (to verify that she is not pregnant as a result of rape or incest, that she is not a minor seeking judicial bypass, and that she has no medical records diagnosing fetal anomalies -- the only three ways to avoid hearing the doctor describe all visible fetal development during the sono), and afterward she completes and signs a "Certification" form to verify that the legal niceties have been satisfied. So as far as the paperwork goes, the state is really just taking the woman's word for it.

        Needless to say, Texas women (especially the pregnant ones) are so generally untrustworthy that I can't see the state leaving it at that for very long. Probably until about five minutes into our next inspection.

        "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

        by moiv on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:07:31 PM PDT

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      •  Random "Secret Shoppers" would be my guess... (3+ / 0-)
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        or at least the potential threat of one.  I'd imagine a stiff penalty combined with not knowing whether or not a "patient" was working undercover for the state might be enough to convince the docs to follow the rules.

        And actually, not as much someone working undercover for the state as working undercover for a cause -- someone like a Lila Rose / James O'Keefe protege who'd be more than happy to get wired up to take a clinic down.

        Teabaggers can yell "Read the bills" all they want; at least we actually write them.

        by here4tehbeer on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 12:41:32 AM PDT

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  •  Doctors hate this stuff. I expect (4+ / 0-)
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    a complaint or two.

    "Success was individual achievement; failure was a social problem." Michael Lewis in The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine

    by hoolia on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 10:15:42 PM PDT

  •  And Romney could be taking this offensive national (5+ / 0-)
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    Yes, Texas has been amongst the worst on this issue, and yet it still seems there are some Republicans who want Perry to be Romney's VP.

    But regardless of who the VP is, it seems Romney too has bought into this agenda.  Maybe this is old news to those here who are following closely, but it's worth repeating.  The likely Republican nominee, just two weeks ago, said the following words:

    Planned Parenthood, we're going to get rid of that.
    And he said it on air.  There's video.

    So even if Romney might arguably be not quite as bad as Perry or Santorum on this, he still will likely end up being a disaster for anyone who supports fundamental birth control rights which most of us today are accustomed to taking for granted.  You'd think it was the 1950s with some of the positions that have been coming out of the Republican Party on this issue this year.

  •  So I'm suddenly considering (3+ / 0-)
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    putting my name on the ballot for the state legislature in 2014.

    I've had enough of this crap.  And there's no Democrat running for the state Senate or state House in my district (though, to be fair, they're both Republican vote-sinks...)

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:39:48 PM PDT

  •  And also (4+ / 0-)
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    What's all that crap they've been spewing about "individual liberty" and not having government get in between patients and their doctors?

    Oh, right, they really mean "government shouldn't get in between old white men and their doctors."  Getting in between women and their doctors is a different matter.

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 11:43:57 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for all these details, moiv... (7+ / 0-)

    ...appalling details of an appalling situation.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 12:07:07 AM PDT

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      that it was my pleasure, but of course it is nothing of the kind.

      The April 5 scheduling of the meeting probably means that the state is hoping it will all disappear into the pre-holiday news dump--right down the Easter bunny rabbit hole.

      But it would be really great if people could get out in front of it this time, and have a chance to raise some efficacious hell beforehand instead of just ranting in the wake of disaster, which is all we've been left with on the sonogram bill and the defunding of PP.

      "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

      by moiv on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28:49 AM PDT

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      •  A parade w/ pinatas of giant truck hanging balls (0+ / 0-)

        with all kinds of women carrying baseball bats and tire irons and crowbars...ending up at the Capitol in Austin,...where the pinatas were smashed...might make a strong statement telling legislators that we are definitely fighting back.

        Women are absolutely fed up with these ignorant twelfth century losers.

        They want to mess with our private parts?

        Let's mess with theirs. Ha!  

        "Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope." ~Robert F. Kennedy

        by Agent99 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:00:11 AM PDT

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        •  Fill the pinatas w/ easter candy for TV coverage! (0+ / 0-)

          Don't Mess With Texas!

          Let's carry on where Molly Ivins left off!

          "Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope." ~Robert F. Kennedy

          by Agent99 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 01:04:47 AM PDT

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  •  ask anyone who knows me (5+ / 0-)

    If my husband was any sort of lawmaker and had the nerve to push ANY kind of bill that went against women's rights or women's health, he would literally be locked out of our house.  He would have to hope he had his wallet and credit card handy cause he'd need it to rent a hotel room.

    I am currently not married but I was and I can tell you I would have kicked my husband's ass for doing something like that.  It's not right for men to do these things and it's also our duty as women to yell as long and loud as need to be to stop them.  Protest, march, call, email, whatever it takes.

    I thank god that my daughter is pro-choice and pro-women.  It makes me proud.

  •  intrusive! (2+ / 0-)
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    But as a fan of demographics, it would be fascinating data to look at. If Gutmacher's demographics are true for all women seeking abortions, then the number of women having repeat abortions would be quite low. Most of the women would already have children and most of the women would not be college grads.

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